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I like you have an opinion, mine being positive not heading towards the negative side.
Are you a MOD? What the fook brought that into the discussion? Here for a good time, not to cause upset, I asked a question, questioned your negative approach, got attacked.
Happy
Quote by user=Aeval
Are YOU a forum moderator?? Who do YOU think you are taking that stand with me, I have placed my comment here like everyone else, and as a member I am entitled to do so. I don’t care of your opinion of me, it holds no interest to me whatsoever. This thread was started by you in the negative, there have been both positive and negative posts from other members, yet YOU choose to pick out my comment, you should look to your own negativity before you try to check mind, and as for taking a chill pill, all I can say to that comment is, grow up and act your age!
I for one, Will be contacting the ADMIN team
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I like you have an opinion, mine being positive not heading towards the negative side.
Are you a MOD? What the fook brought that into the discussion? Here for a good time, not to cause upset, I asked a question, questioned your negative approach, got attacked.
Happy
Are YOU a forum moderator?? Who do YOU think you are taking that stand with me, I have placed my comment here like everyone else, and as a member I am entitled to do so. I don’t care of your opinion of me, it holds no interest to me whatsoever. This thread was started by you in the negative, there have been both positive and negative posts from other members, yet YOU choose to pick out my comment, you should look to your own negativity before you try to check mind, and as for taking a chill pill, all I can say to that comment is, grow up and act your age!
In answer to your question. No I am not, that said I won't question yours either, nor will I ask!
Happy x
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Are YOU a forum moderator?? Who do YOU think you are taking that stand with me, I have placed my comment here like everyone else, and as a member I am entitled to do so. I don’t care of your opinion of me, it holds no interest to me whatsoever. This thread was started by you in the negative, there have been both positive and negative posts from other members, yet YOU choose to pick out my comment, you should look to your own negativity before you try to check mind, and as for taking a chill pill, all I can say to that comment is, grow up and act your age!
Cough Cough:
Aeval says:
Are YOU a forum moderator?? Who do YOU think you are taking that stand with me, I have placed my comment here like everyone else, and as a member I am entitled to do so. I don’t care of your opinion of me, it holds no interest to me whatsoever. This thread was started by you in the negative, there have been both positive and negative posts from other members, yet YOU choose to pick out my comment, you should look to your own negativity before you try to check mind, and as for taking a chill pill, all I can say to that comment is, grow up and act your age!

Grow up? your opinion not mine!!!! I have no desire to argue with you, but I have to correct you! I started this thread, purely for the "whispers" factor, simply thats all.
Me as a person is not only "Grown up" but also educated too high degree!
To Profess or Patronise, baffles me!
Happy xx
Ok Kids, Play nice or I will lock this thread. These things are meant to be informative and balanced...well balanced to some degree, not a battle of the ego's, if you have issue with each other address it on email. cheers.
Firstly happylouth, let me say you DID NOT ask me a question, what you did was criticise my post, as if I should not have posted it, hence me asking were you a forum moderator, that to me was an attempt to moderate me. I simply put forward my thoughts, I was not rude to anyone or call anyone names, all I did in fact was reiterate what was already posted by previous posters, minus the donkey name calling, yet you attempt to pull me up for my post, and not a mention on other negative posters. Yes you are entitled to your opinion, as I am mine, but as you never commented in the negative on other members name calling I have to assume you were attempting to have a dig at me personally, either way I don’t really care, but let me tell you, I will not sit idly by and let someone attempt to bully me in any forum, I will say my piece whither you like it or not, the only people who have authority to question my posts are moderators and admin, and seen as you say your not one, what I post is none of your business. Titan feel free to lock the thread if you need, but I was standing my corner against what I perceive was an attempt to put me in my place, I will take that from no one in real life and sure as hell not on here by someone I don’t know nor want to know. There is no ego from me in play here, Im just calling it as I see it. After this post, Im not bothered.
hmmmmm me thinks that Happy and Aeval need to be locked in a room andduel Lady and Gent, at the end of the day we are on here for fun and hopefully somewhere along the way, we might make friends too!! But as I said in my own post here, while I realise that people SHOULD always abide by the rules, there are some who won't no matter what anyone says, and if one is been bombarded and insulted I would appeal you do the following: 1. Record and report this to the Mods. 2. Turn off your whisper mode until as such time that someone you wish to chat with is on, or someone asks nicely. Aeval hun, while I do completely understand what you say about not having to turn off the whisper mode, perhaps if you tried for a while and then when someone asks to whisp and you agree, may others will get fed up and stop hasstling you. I will never try and defend idiots on here, but from one who dosen't ever get a whispsad, I can only sympathise with you as it casts a very dark cloud on the genuine people here.:therethere:
When we were given the Whipser Disable option - I was delighted - I think it's well known that I don't like the whipser mode.
For a trial period I turned off the whipsers on entering chat - and only enabled them when asked in main to do so. It worked in eliminating the random whipsers.
I give the Newbies chance to learn the etiquette of the rooms and remind others when they are abusing the facility - even though I'm not a Mod. I believe that as a member of this community, we all have the power to protect ourselves and each other from the people who would spoil our enjoyment of the site.
Certain individuals however do still persist in being a pest. These I record and report - Sorry, Mods - your workload is never done.

:giggle:
Having recently carried out an on-line poll on the issue of "Whispers" I have read with interest the current & continuing debate re whispers. I would also like to congratulate Titan for his detailed & thoughtful post on "Chat Etiquette" & "General conduct on site".
While I have disagreed with Aeval in another post, on this occasion I have to uphold her right to express her views and opinions. It is unfortunate that this important forum post has turned into a feud between Happylouth & Aeval.
Happy your "Jesus.... chill will ya..... this will hopefully be a positive thread, stop harping on..... your POSTS are always negative and may deter future members...... grrrrrrr"
... remark was a low point in the discussion, totally uncalled for and an example of online "snarking". What started as an open and interesting discussion has developed into an unseemly "bar room brawl".

Happy you are one who has constantly fought for your right hold and express an opinion, especially in the "Anything Goes" forum. This of all forums should be just that; you, Aeval and others are entitled to their opinions, without fear of censure (as long as they are within the AUP rules). As with any debated motion you may agree or disagree but it should never become personal.
So that the discussion may continue I would propose
1- that all relevant posts after Aeval's initial post be deleted by the forum moderator
2- Happy and Aeval do not post again to this thread for a week
In the interim Admin might consider
1- new members have no whisper facility for 6 weeks from joining
2- if "kicked" from a room for persistent Whispering there should be a loss of Whisper facilities for 6 weeks.
3- new & kicked members be restricted to sending a maximum of 20 messages per day, for 6 weeks
4- members have an option to "block" mail from either males, females or couples, it is an option offered on some sites. While I would not welcome it, I understand some women are getting hundreds of mails per day, most unsolicited. Were I a female member or couple I would welcome such a "block" or an "accept from" feature.
Unfortunately restrictions for the few will affect the many but until some members learn manners, some form of protection needs to be put in place. Un-solicited or Abusive whispers are a form of Bullying & in the work place would be totally un-acceptable, resulting in charges for sexual harassment, with possible lost of employment.
Re my original on-line poll, the general consensus was to keep the Whisper feature but with restrictions, the most favoured being an ability to block specific profiles from whispering in the room. However I understand there are technical difficulties with providing such a user specific facility.
To all concerned, I have emailed Aeval to apologise. I am willing to publicly apologise in this thread, for all to read. Alan, Why should Aeval be prevented from posting in the forums for a week? Me possibly not her. Louth.
sorry but doubt very much these kind of things are going to happen, from reading this particular reply, it comes across the solution would be for the site owners, admin and moderator staff to become dictatorial and create an elitism within the scene, freedom of speech is what the forums are about, as long as they are within the current site rules that have been accepted by any person who has joined, (regardless of whether they actually read the rules or policies they were directed towards).
the onus is not on the site to curb human behaviour, that trait is the sole responsibility of the user who has become a member.
Quote by user=alan-ball
Having recently carried out an on-line poll on the issue of "Whispers" I have read with interest the current & continuing debate re whispers. I would also like to congratulate Titan for his detailed & thoughtful post on "Chat Etiquette" & "General conduct on site".
While I have disagreed with Aeval in another post, on this occasion I have to uphold her right to express her views and opinions. It is unfortunate that this important forum post has turned into a feud between Happylouth & Aeval.
Happy your "Jesus.... chill will ya..... this will hopefully be a positive thread, stop harping on..... your POSTS are always negative and may deter future members...... grrrrrrr"
... remark was a low point in the discussion, totally uncalled for and an example of online "snarking". What started as an open and interesting discussion has developed into an unseemly "bar room brawl".

Happy you are one who has constantly fought for your right hold and express an opinion, especially in the "Anything Goes" forum. This of all forums should be just that; you, Aeval and others are entitled to their opinions, without fear of censure (as long as they are within the AUP rules). As with any debated motion you may agree or disagree but it should never become personal.
So that the discussion may continue I would propose
1- that all relevant posts after Aeval's initial post be deleted by the forum moderator
2- Happy and Aeval do not post again to this thread for a week
In the interim Admin might consider
1- new members have no whisper facility for 6 weeks from joining
2- if "kicked" from a room for persistent Whispering there should be a loss of Whisper facilities for 6 weeks.
3- new & kicked members be restricted to sending a maximum of 20 messages per day, for 6 weeks
4- members have an option to "block" mail from either males, females or couples, it is an option offered on some sites. While I would not welcome it, I understand some women are getting hundreds of mails per day, most unsolicited. Were I a female member or couple I would welcome such a "block" or an "accept from" feature.
Unfortunately restrictions for the few will affect the many but until some members learn manners, some form of protection needs to be put in place. Un-solicited or Abusive whispers are a form of Bullying & in the work place would be totally un-acceptable, resulting in charges for sexual harassment, with possible lost of employment.
Re my original on-line poll, the general consensus was to keep the Whisper feature but with restrictions, the most favoured being an ability to block specific profiles from whispering in the room. However I understand there are technical difficulties with providing such a user specific facility.
Quote by user=happylouth
To all concerned, I have emailed Aeval to apologise. I am willing to publicly apologise in this thread, for all to read.
Alan,
Why should Aeval be prevented from posting in the forums for a week? Me possibly not her.
Louth.

Happy I welcome that you have apologised to Aeval.
my post was before I realised you had sent an apology, providing you can agree to dis-agree & put your differences aside, then a "no posting" should not be imposed on either of you.
Now let the discussion continue.
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To all concerned, I have emailed Aeval to apologise. I am willing to publicly apologise in this thread, for all to read.
Alan,
Why should Aeval be prevented from posting in the forums for a week? Me possibly not her.
Louth.

Happy, it takes great courage to say you are sorry and I applaud you for doing this and I do hope it is accepted with the same good will that it is given.
Some people have said to me that they don't see me in the forums that often. Well that is because I spend a lot of time in the chatrooms and thankfully I have built a great rapport with a lot of lovely people and I am ever so grateful for this.
If all other members built up this same rapport with other members, maybe we wouldn't have the problem with unwanted whispers.

While I have disagreed with Aeval in another post, on this occasion I have to uphold her right to express her views and opinions. It is unfortunate that this important forum post has turned into a feud between Happylouth & Aeval.
Happy your "Jesus.... chill will ya..... this will hopefully be a positive thread, stop harping on..... your POSTS are always negative and may deter future members...... grrrrrrr"
... remark was a low point in the discussion, totally uncalled for and an example of online "snarking". What started as an open and interesting discussion has developed into an unseemly "bar room brawl".

Happy you are one who has constantly fought for your right hold and express an opinion, especially in the "Anything Goes" forum. This of all forums should be just that; you, Aeval and others are entitled to their opinions, without fear of censure (as long as they are within the AUP rules). As with any debated motion you may agree or disagree but it should never become personal.
So that the discussion may continue I would propose
1- that all relevant posts after Aeval's initial post be deleted by the forum moderator
2- Happy and Aeval do not post again to this thread for a week
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Sorry Alan have to disagree with you on this, what you see as a unseemly bar room ball is two member's with different view's, who have a right to express them as they see fit. By looking for them to be banned from posting on this thread for a week is a form of dictatorship and to have the replies after those posts deleted is both unfair and wrong as those member's have a right to their say also.
I have had my run in`s with Happy which have been caused by a clash of view's, this is what happens when people disagree, but should not be punishable by banning if a compromise can be made.
Raven if you go back in the thread it was a crass remark that started the dispute, not a difference of opinion. Happy has admitted he was wrong. I believed their online spat was being detremental to an open dicussion of this important subject. Now there is a truce I hope the debate will continue.
Folks,
I was wrong, I know that! but I am prepared to face the backlash, albeit a ban.
Getting back to whispering, having been in the chatroom earlier and witnessed the carry-on of some users and their Unsolicted whispers, it's become apparent that they never learn!
Rallybk posted a warning, then had to endure snide comments from fellow users about why he posted the warning, but his repeated post worked and the whispers appeared to stop, for a period anyhow.
One user commented something like the following " We get your message, As a paid member we don't have to put up with the repeat posting" or words to that effect! I wanted to reply in the main Chatroom to that post, but refrained.......
Fair play to the MOD/ADMIN Team, you really do have your work cut out.
Louth.
Alan,
In simple terms, we all make mistakes and I for one have admitted that! Your a good mate, but never class me in the following category:
"CRASS"
Definition:
without refinement, delicacy, or sensitivity
Alan, you know me too well to even suggest, I belong in that category!
Yes I do have my moments, yes I am and will continue to have an opinion, like I do in real life, not just on here! if permitted?
But I am far from "Crass"
Louth.
Quote by user=alan-ball
Raven if you go back in the thread it was a crass remark that started the dispute, not a difference of opinion.
Happy has admitted he was wrong. I believed their online spat was being detremental to an open dicussion of this important subject.
Now there is a truce I hope the debate will continue.
Quote by user=Aeval
I would like to say, I do understand that people will make mistakes when using the whisper function – but in honesty from my personal experience – I have been inundated with whispers – and the majority of them were not by accident – but deliberate – and most definitely when all put together – I do consider them to be irritating pests – I do my best to ignore them – but after a while – well quite frankly they get on my tits – and not in a good way. Yes there is the option to disable the whispers – but why should I be forced to use this option because other people refuse to abide by simple manners and rules by asking to whisper first.

Its simple enough you should use this option and turn off the whispers because then it wouldn't annoy you. Pests are going to pests, hence why there called pests.
Happy you know quite well I meant the remark & not you personally, although the time you made your initial reply post to Aeval ... :lol2:
You planted a seed! Seeds grow!
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Happy you know quite well I meant the remark & not you personally, although the time you made your initial reply post to Aeval ... :lol2:
Jesus Happy, you sound like a snobby John Wayne there lol
Moi, is far from a snob! I am however fortunate to have invested wisely and continue to do so...........
Louth.
Quote by user=numberseven
Jesus Happy, you sound like a snobby John Wayne there lol
time to start acting like adults boys, forums are not there to play insult ping pong with........ if you wish to pass snide remarks on these forums, I for one recommend you go back to bebo
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time to start acting like adults boys, forums are not there to play insult ping pong with........ if you wish to pass snide remarks on these forums, I for one recommend you go back to bebo

Bailey's I agree with ya here, but not on the bebo bit.....that place is terrible!!
I suggest an old fashioned tradition of a duel and then we get on with it....:thumbup:
Or they could send durty whispers to each other in chat lol
yep Ive sent wrong whisper es twice it does sometimes happen ,but if you apologize for it i don't think you should be kicked for it.
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yep Ive sent wrong whisper es twice it does sometimes happen ,but if you apologize for it i don't think you should be kicked for it.

...Must admit I am guilty of it too.
While I agree with you Lovebird - there are some site-users here who DO NOT take "No" for an answer - and they retaliate by getting very nasty when ignored because they whipser.
These people will never just 'get bored/go away' - and they upset the tone of the chatroom by their maliciousness. They get their kinks by upsetting other chatters. Very few bad apples - but they ruin the craic!
It's these few who should be sent a warning about their behaviour by Admin and then banned altogether if they persist in not playing by the site rules. It's not just a personal whim - it's the SITE RULES - Ask permission before you Whipser!
Is it Tuesday Marie? "whipser" lol x x
Quote by it's the SITE RULES - Ask permission before you Whipser!
Nooooooooooooooo it's only Monday - did you go to work on a Bank Holiday by mistake lol