With regular play parties and Meet & Greets organised these days; hotel, pub and apartment rental staff are becoming more aware of swinging activities. I'm talking medium to big sized groups here. Not 3sums or 4sums.
We can try to be discreet, but simple things give it away,
At parties: A Noah's Arc scenario.. couples.. 2 by 2 entering a room. Music blaring, noise of 20 - 40 people chatting; room is a 2 or 3 bed apartment booked for 4 or 6 people. Hotel and some apartment corridors have cameras.
At M&G's: Swingers dancing provocatively on the dancefloor, usually 2 bi women looking hot & horny.. Men don't dance much..
A group of people sexily dressed and seem to be open in each others company. People openly snogging another in front of his / her partner. Bi girls kissing each other.
My question is.. what to do if they suspect? If they say anything or ask guests to leave? What are our rights in this regard? Can we invite people to our room as long as we ensure that the booked number of people are the only ones who stayed the night? Are we entitled to privacy as long as we are discreet and clean up afterwards?
Sunny
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Hey sunny, you raise a very good issue, ppl should really get to know their rights with regards to such events. Now while I’m not totally up on the legalities, I do know once you hire/book a room etc, there will be terms and conditions to the contract that nearly all of us don’t read, if it is found you as a party to the contract are in breach of any of said terms and conditions then hotel owners/managers are within their rights to ask you to leave their premises. However they can’t ask you personal questions nor can they discriminate against anyone based on their sexuality, so to bi fems kissing in public, whilst some may frown on it, they can’t say anything except if they deem the behaviour overly lewd, they may ask you to refrain from such, but in doing so even that may put them in a precarious situation.
I was at a M&G where I think by end of night the staff cottoned on that it wasn’t just a birthday party, and where I erm...well lets just say was openly naughty in residents bar…nothing was said nor done, nor could it have been, I was not breaching any contract as a resident. The venue owners can’t tell or ask all attendee’s in a carte blanche manner to leave, they have to look individually at possible breaches of contracts , fair enough they might not allow the host to rent a function room again if they discover it was a swingers M&G, but there are plenty of hotels who will have no bother with such as long as discretion is a given.
Sherri, I have noticed lately while looking at hotel websites that some have set a a maximum occupancy to rooms. I would wonder if, after a set time, exceeding this occupancy may be contrary to the pre-agreed Terms & Conditions or could the hotel site breach of an insurance policy as a reason to cut short the fun? This information might have been helpful to those encountering zealous security staff in the past.
Thanks girls. Thing is though, when people book a room / apartment, there is no written contract of your do's and don'ts. The only thing mentioned is if there is damage to the room and that's why some places take deposits. You verbally specify the number of people staying, the number of beds in the room, the number of nights and the cost including deposit if need be. That's the only verbal agreement I think. Have never been told not to have a party or visitors in the room.
Thankfully it hasn't happened to me, but have heard of people who had issues with the hotel staff.
Can the management ask guests to leave or ban us even though we're discreet, just because we are swingers?
I usually jump naked from the window ( bitch when you are on third or upper floors, but have discovered that a large bra makes a good makeshift parachute and run screaming thru the bushes ( again avoid thistles and furze bushes as you may not be able to sit down for several days and worst case may involve a visit to doctor for removal with tweezers).
On reflection in future perhaps talking before leaping is a good idea.
In all seriousness thanks for the advice have never been in a position to use it yet but good to know options.
Midnight you are right about hotels setting maximum occupancy for rooms, and yeah, its connected to insurance and health and safety issues that might arise in situations if hotel needed to be evacuated. Once that limit had been exceeded then technically the person who booked and paid for the room would be in breach of their contract. I do know however hotels do allow guests to have visitors, but at what time they must vacate room would be determined by hotel policy, I don’t know what that is, but fairly sure it is standard across the board for them all. But that too will also depend on where in country you are, I know from experience in Belfast they are very strict in their policy, and security is very tight.
Sunny whilst some hotels might not give you the do’s and don’ts , you will generally find if you ask there is a house policy set in place and you are entitled to see it, or it may in fact be on the back of your receipt, however anything that is not standard policy or exceptional, then your attention must be drawn to it prior to or at time of your checking in. The onus regarding generally policy is that you should make yourself aware of them , as once you have booked in it is seen as you have accepted the standard policies of the hotel. I would imagine it mostly covers occupancy and responsibility for damages as you mentioned.
So I guess yes, if a hotel has found you in breach of conditions set when booking was made, they could technically ask your guests and even yourself to leave, but I think that would be a very rare thing that happens. When you book a hotel room or for talk sake but a ticket for a concert, you basically obtain a license, (as opposed to a bare license like having a drink in a bar) for a time period set, its paid for on basis that its for a temporary time, and at anytime if your in breach of conditions then the owners are within their entitlement to ask you to leave
well we actually did encounter this problem on one occasion while a ttending a party ,,,having hired an apartment sleeps 6,,,we all arived (more than 6) which the noticed,,,they asked us to leave,,,but we argued and they allowed us to party till 3 am,,then rang the apt and asked all except 6 to leave and came up to escort us out,,,i recall mmmm 2 big muscly men ,,i did ask them to joins us :doggy:but they declined which was a little inconvenient but i suppose they did give us til 3 am ,,,they walked us down but we had last laugh,,we headed back to other cpls apt and stayed there :moon:
Quote by user=lucylovesit they asked us to leave,,,but we argued and they allowed us to party till 3 am,,then rang the apt and asked all except 6 to leave and came up to escort us out,,,i recall mmmm 2 big muscly men ,,i did ask them to joins us :doggy:but they declined which was a little inconvenient but i suppose they did give us til 3 am ,,,they walked us down but we had last laugh,,we headed back to other cpls apt and stayed there :moon:
That's the kind of situation I was talking about Lucy.
I can understand a hotel objecting to more (than the specified room capacity) people sleeping in the room, after all they make money from "bed & breakfast" ... and there is an obvious health & safety element ... but if you rent a room are you not allowed bring people back for a night cap.
If you rent a house are you not entitled to treat it as your own and invite friend round ... it may be a 3 bedroom house, but the living-room, kitchen surely do not have a capacity issue.
If they are asking you to leave because of your "life- style" then surely that is discrimination, if you were as same sex couple, an itinerant or a non-national they could not ask you to leave.
It is sounding like 1980's Ireland when the B&B owners looked for the wedding ring on the girls finger before renting a "twin-bedded room" to a young couple.
Surely as long as you are being discreet and not being rowdy then what goes on behind your door is private.
I was at studandsexy's m+g in dundalk 2 years ago, and that night the hotel did sort of cotton on that the so called anniversary party wasnt as it seemed, and that alot of the guests we're lets say to vocal in the smoking area.
The hotel didnt take any action, or try to stem down the party, but as it turned out, and some of you know, the press we're there that night, and it all got reported in the rags, so the chances of that hotel accepting jorge and rose for a simple room booking in the future well and truely gone.
Now as for simple meets between two couples, i dont think the hotels really care, isnt there an arguement that once you pay for your room is becomes your bedroom, and what happens in a bedroom between consenting adults there business.
We had a meet once and only coz the other woman was so nervous she got maybe a little too drunk, she let it slip right in front of the girl on reception as her and myself we're heading to the room that "your going to be the first man to fuck me other than my husband", ok, whats wrong with that you ask,?? well, lol, this same girl had booked myself and jenny in only two hours perviously, and we had been in the bar together, and jenny was sitting in the bar with the other hubby, lol,
So the reason for our booking the room in the hotel was more than obvious to the hotel staff, but, have to say, the girl at reception just gave me a dirty grin, and nothing was said.
When we went to settle the bill in the morning, and went to reception together, (jenny and I) you guessed it, the same girl was there, lol, slightly embarressing,
Most of these hotels know this is going on in there rooms, but they are not stupid enough to turn down bookings on these grounds, at the end of the day us swingers spend alot of money in hotels all around the country, and fill alot of bedrooms, drink alot of beer and eat alot of food, we choose the venue in many ways, ease of access, distance between both groups, but also we base it on the set up of the hotel, moving between rooms and all that,
I think in the present financial world, hotels care more about there profits and staff than three or more people sharing each other in the same rooms,
money talks,
Hi gang , staff not only suspect but know lol. I worked in a hotel for many years and even tho it was about ten years ago now it is the same story as now. Its generaly down to the management , some think its gas , some not but the reason they would ever approach you is if you were too loud (can be a problem), thats because other guests complain. Ive been a bar man and night porter and the tales are gas but the hotel generaly dont mind once you dont disturb anyone else . 3 or 4 in a 2 bed room is one thing 8 is too many and not tolerated because its loss of money , not because of what we are up too.
A group of people sexily dressed and seem to be open in each others company. People openly snogging another in front of his / her partner. Bi girls kissing each other.
My question is.. what to do if they suspect? If they say anything or ask guests to leave? What are our rights in this regard? Can we invite people to our room as long as we ensure that the booked number of people are the only ones who stayed the night? Are we entitled to privacy as long as we are discreet and clean up afterwards?
Sunny
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which was a little inconvenient but i suppose they did give us til 3 am ,,,they walked us down but we had last laugh,,we headed back to other cpls apt and stayed there :moon:
